FN FAL vs M14 (M1a) vs G3 (HK91)
I have owned and shot all three rifle types (FN, M1A and HK). I have shot all three in a ‘military or fighting’ type environment. This differs greatly from ‘range shooting’ – and my...
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The FN FAL and the M14 in factory trim both have 21" tubes - the G3 (HK91) has an 18" tube.Although (and this won't surprise you Klick - but you won't like it) I have since SHORTENED my FN FAL barrel...
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Boy I handled a CETME last night for the first time. Felt nice and light but still strong and shouldered reasonable well but man o man TI, those controls are just terrible. Completely non intuitive,...
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I don't know, some day you may hear from out of the bushes: "naaa naaa! Sixteen inch barrel! Didn't hurt!" !!!!! So why not 18"?? I would have disliked that less better.
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Not a believer in long barrels. The most highly respected *actual* SNIPER school in the world outside the USMC is GPS Defense. It is owned/ran by former USMC Snipers. In fact the guy that wrote the...
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Not a believer in short barrels, 16" inch is short. Remember when 20" was considered a carbine? (pre-AR/AK) Even the Winchester carbines, the carbines to define all carbines, had 19" and 20" tubes on...
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In the balance of ballistics and handling/portability "technology" advances have bridged the gap through time. "out dated" tech now was at one time state of the art. Today if the ballistics hold up...
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A 20" barrel, or an 18", will always outperform a 16 or 14" barrel, every time. You can't change the laws of physics, or fool mother nature. You can say "it does not matter", but more velocity is more...
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Yeah - the reason that barrels have been getting progressively shorter is because the advances in propellant powders. And they are getting shorter for very valid reasons.Regarding the laws of physics...
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And I always thought that overkill was just right. !!!
View ArticleRe: FN FAL vs M14 (M1a) vs G3 (HK91)
Great Thread TI I have a few friends who have properly installed pistol grips on fiberglass M14 stocks and it truly transforms them to a higher level of ergonomics as does the pricey E2 stock, they...
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Man, debating with Iron is kind of like whizzing into the wind. However, there's one more point I'd like to make, although clutching at straws it is. Even if a timer shows that a 16" barrel is faster,...
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Klick,At the ranges where the difference in "handling" speed could save your life - the difference in velocity won't matter. Having been on a number of two way ranges - I would much rather sacrifice...
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Yes TI it does help. As I try to expand out past 100, you again remind me the importance of devoting the majority of my time within those limits and not to abandon them completely. Even with a semi...
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I understand your point, and in fact I don't doubt that you are right. Just saying that if we can split hairs on a tenth or so of a second as far as handling goes, then I don't think we can totally...
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And there is MUCH to say about confidence in one's firearm. I would rather you have a 48" barrel and have alot of confidence (through training) in your choice than to have a 16" barrel and no...
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A couple items are missed in regards to barrel length: 1) Higher velocity = less bullet drop in a given distance 2) Higher velocity = greater distance to subsonic transition where bullet destablizes...
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Your link to the Truth About Guns Article is excellent and it completely backs TI's informed opinion regarding the usefulness of the short barreled rifle. A shorter barrel is also stiffer giving you...
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Yes, shorter stiffer barrels are generally more accurate due to less barrel vibration/flex. But that's at a cost to velocity. IMO, that velocity increase does lead to more precise shooting at distance...
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